Dunkelweizen Recipe?

crrimson · Post by **crrimson** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:57 pm

Hello, this is my first post. I've been brewing for a while and have had the pleasure of trying some of the CR beer nuts brews at 2008/2009 benz beerfests. Really liked the coffee stout in 08, not sure what I even tried this year I think I was a little drunk by the time I got to the tent.

I'm looking for a good recipe for Dunkelweizen and I really liked the Cedar Brew/3rd Base's earlier this year so much I thought I would ask around here. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I usually do "ghetto" partial mashes in my brew pot/extract but I would be able to convert an all grain recipe.

Thanks,

Adam

Mr T · Post by **Mr T** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:22 pm

Congrats on the first post, I like/brew ghetto brewing.. but never brewed a Dunk. I was at both 08, and 09 benz serving… so perhaps we will meet again. I’m sure by mid afternoon Wednesday you will have a half dozen “experts” throwing you advice.

If you feel inclined, stop by a club meeting, I’m sure we would all love to taste the Dunkel or whatever else your brewing.

Cheers.

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Subject: Dunkelweizen Recipe?

Hello, this is my first post. I've been brewing for a while and have had the pleasure of trying some of the CR beer nuts brews at 2008/2009 benz beerfests. Really liked the coffee stout in 08, not sure what I even tried this year I think I was a little drunk by the time I got to the tent.

I'm looking for a good recipe for Dunkelweizen and I really liked the Cedar Brew/3rd Base's earlier this year so much I thought I would ask around here. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I usually do "ghetto" partial mashes in my brew pot/extract but I would be able to convert an all grain recipe.

Thanks,

Adam

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tompb · Post by **tompb** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:46 pm

Hi. Welcome to the forum. I don't have a dunkel, but heres a wiezenbock that turned out well.

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Wiezen Guy
Brewer: Tom Burns
Asst Brewer:
Style: Weizenbock
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 10.00 gal
Boil Size: 12.04 gal
Estimated OG: 1.081 SG
Estimated Color: 22.4 SRM
Estimated IBU: 24.2 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
12.29 lb Wheat - White Malt (Briess) (2.3 SRM) Grain 44.92 %
7.14 lb Pilsen Malt 2-Row (Briess) (1.0 SRM) Grain 26.11 %
2.86 lb Munich 20L (Briess) (20.0 SRM) Grain 10.44 %
2.00 lb Caramel Malt - 40L (Briess) (40.0 SRM) Grain 7.31 %
2.00 lb Caramel Wheat Malt (46.0 SRM) Grain 7.31 %
0.71 lb Special B Malt (180.0 SRM) Grain 2.61 %
0.36 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 1.31 %
2.14 oz Hallertauer, New Zealand [8.50 %] (60 minHops 24.2 IBU

Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 27.36 lb
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Single Infusion, Medium Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
75 min Mash In Add 34.20 qt of water at 164.1 F 150.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 19.15 qt of water at 206.1 F 168.0 F

Notes:
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I'm not sure how it would convert to a partial mash.

Brewing classic styles is also an excellent source for tried an true recipes. Most are given in both partial mash and all grain.

Stop by a meeting some time.

crrimson · Post by **crrimson** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:32 pm

Thanks guys!

Was really hoping to get the recipe for that Cedar Brew Dunkel since I liked it so much, but Weizenbock is a style I have never tried before, I'm surprised because it sounds like it's my type of beer.

I had to look it up on BA - A more powerful Dunkel Weizen (of "bock strength"),.. wow, how have I never heard of this style before?

I like Dunkelweizen, I love stronger ales (doubles IPA, russian imperials, doppelbock, etc)

I will definitely have to stop by a meeting some time.

How did the Weizenbock taste? Was it pretty malty / rich?

tompb · Post by **tompb** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:12 am

If you were at Benz this year that recipe was the Wiezen Guy we were serving. I think Cedar Brewings Dunkel was a recipe from Brian if he's willing to share

Lower Case T · Post by **Lower Case T** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:56 pm

I think this is what I did last time: (Cedar Brew's dunkel)

40 % domestic 2 row
40 % malted wheat Est. SRM 18
10 % Munich dark (about 30 SRM) Est IBU 18
4.5 % Cara Munich 80 L My OG was 13.6 P
4 % Pale Chocolate (about 200 SRM) FG around 3 P
4 % Cara Munich 40 L

18 IBU of Saaz for 60 min of a 60 minute boil.
Pitch Wyeast 3068 yeast.

I mashed at 153 deg for about 45 minutes. And I fermented this one pretty cold. around 60 degrees F for the most part. Then let it rise up as high as it would go.

I think I might have been following Jamil's recipe and plan of attack from his Dunkel show.

I really liked the pale chocolate malt, and of course the key is to use the right yeast.

Good luck and bring some in!

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:12 AM, tompb <brew-recipes@crbeernuts.org (brew-recipes@crbeernuts.org)> wrote:

If you were at Benz this year that recipe was the Wiezen Guy we were serving. I think Cedar Brewings Dunkel was a recipe from Brian if he's willing to share

Runamok Brewing

Jesus must have been a yeast. Who else could turn water into wine?

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TappedOut · Post by **TappedOut** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:27 pm

So if your grain bill adds up to 102.5%, is that sort of like going to 11?

Lower Case T · Post by **Lower Case T** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:28 pm

Its EXACTLY like going to elven! However I suggest for your first attempt to dial it down to 10. Here are the Freaking! exact %'s

39.1
39.1
9.8
4.4
4.1
3.6

May God have mercy on your sole sir!

Oh, and Cheers! :)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:27 PM, TappedOut <brew-recipes@crbeernuts.org (brew-recipes@crbeernuts.org)> wrote:

So if your grain bill adds up to 102.5%, is that sort of like going to 11?

--
Prost!
Travis Scheidecker
Head Brewer
Third Base Brewery
500 Blairs Ferry Rd NE
Cedar Rapids, IA 52402
Tel. 319-378-9090 Fax: 319-378-9697
www.thirdbasebrewery.com

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Lower Case T · Post by **Lower Case T** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:29 pm

thats still .1 over! I guess its useless.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Travis Scheidecker <3bbrewer@gmail.com (3bbrewer@gmail.com)> wrote:

Its EXACTLY like going to elven! However I suggest for your first attempt to dial it down to 10. Here are the Freaking! exact %'s

39.1
39.1
9.8
4.4
4.1
3.6

May God have mercy on your sole sir!

Oh, and Cheers! :)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:27 PM, TappedOut <brew-recipes@crbeernuts.org (brew-recipes@crbeernuts.org)> wrote:
So if your grain bill adds up to 102.5%, is that sort of like going to 11?

--
Prost!
Travis Scheidecker
Head Brewer
Third Base Brewery
500 Blairs Ferry Rd NE
Cedar Rapids, IA 52402
Tel. 319-378-9090 Fax: 319-378-9697
www.thirdbasebrewery.com

--
Prost!
Travis Scheidecker
Head Brewer
Third Base Brewery
500 Blairs Ferry Rd NE
Cedar Rapids, IA 52402
Tel. 319-378-9090 Fax: 319-378-9697
www.thirdbasebrewery.com

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BrewHound · Post by **BrewHound** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:42 pm

Lower Case T wrote:

May God have mercy on your sole sir!

Why does God need to have mercy on his shoes??????

Lower Case T · Post by **Lower Case T** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:51 pm

man I'm striking out today aren't I. I quit. soul. there. soul. I need a beer.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:42 PM, BrewHound <brew-recipes@crbeernuts.org (brew-recipes@crbeernuts.org)> wrote:

Lower Case T wrote:

May God have mercy on your sole sir!

Why does God need to have mercy on his shoes??????

--
Prost!
Travis Scheidecker
Head Brewer
Third Base Brewery
500 Blairs Ferry Rd NE
Cedar Rapids, IA 52402
Tel. 319-378-9090 Fax: 319-378-9697
www.thirdbasebrewery.com

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bkanderson · Post by **bkanderson** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:06 pm

Here is a recipe as well

A ProMash Recipe Report

BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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17-A Wheat Beer, Bavarian Weizen

Min OG: 1.040 Max OG: 1.056
Min IBU: 10 Max IBU: 20
Min Clr: 2 Max Clr: 9 Color in SRM, Lovibond

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 5.00 Wort Size (Gal): 5.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 8.75
Anticipated OG: 1.048 Plato: 11.93
Anticipated SRM: 10.1
Anticipated IBU: 25.2
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts
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Evaporation Rate: 5.00 Percent Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size: 5.26 Gal
Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.046 SG 11.36 Plato

Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
45.7 4.00 lbs. Pilsener Weissheimer 1.036 2
45.7 4.00 lbs. Wheat Malt Weissheimer 1.038 2
5.7 0.50 lbs. Crystal Med 60L Pauls 1.034 60
2.9 0.25 lbs. Special B (2 Row) Dingemans 1.030 150

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.

Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.00 oz. Hallertauer Tradition Whole 6.00 25.2 50 min.

Extras

Amount Name Type Time
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
0.20 Oz Irish Moss Fining 15 Min.(boil)

Yeast
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WYeast 3068 Weihenstephan Weizen

Mash Schedule
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Mash Type: Single Step

Grain Lbs: 8.75
Water Qts: 12.00 - Before Additional Infusions
Water Gal: 3.00 - Before Additional Infusions

Qts Water Per Lbs Grain: 1.37 - Before Additional Infusions

Saccharification Rest Temp : 152 Time: 60
Mash-out Rest Temp : 0 Time: 0
Sparge Temp : 0 Time: 0

Total Mash Volume Gal: 3.70 - Dough-In Infusion Only

All temperature measurements are degrees Fahrenheit.

bkanderson · Post by **bkanderson** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:08 pm

Oh, by the way this recipe sucks...I would never brew it. Blah.

I like the idea of adding the taste of shoes.

tony b · Post by **tony b** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:30 pm

To quote the immortal Sam & Dave:

"If you like sole music, sweet sole music..."

Sorry, couldn't help myself!

crrimson · Post by **crrimson** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:48 pm

I think I might have been following Jamil's recipe and plan of attack from his Dunkel show.

I listened to that episode a few months ago, I guess I already had the recipe! No seriously though, I thought your recipe was great, If I make it I'll try and crank it up to 11.

I didn't get a chance to try the Weizenbock at this years beerfest, and didn't get there in time for the (Mountain Brew?) Mountain dew beer either.

I'll have to give the Jamil dunkel episode another listen I remember them giving some good tips on it.

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