2011 Elections

[Matt F]

If Jeremy wins do we need to change the title to Prime Minister? You know, he is from Canada.

Actually, why don't we change the title of President to Primary Minister. Yeah that's nice. Man I love having beers right after work.

[BrewHound]

I have never heard of one of those, is that a British thing?

I have heard of a "Prime Minster eh", is that the same thing?

[Mr T]

Jeremy I thought you might be moving due to your job early next year and that is why you were getting out of the cabinet group in the first place.

I also wish you would of came up with this earlier when I was pushing for folks to sign up to give each of us proper campaigning. Did you not read the thread before, I know you were at the last meeting when we talked about it, none the less, let the best American win

Also as president are you going to run the tech meetings as well?

[TappedOut]

In this case, I think it would be Prime Hoser.

[daveR]

Can I be head of the sour beer committee?

[BrewHound]

Jeremy I thought you might be moving due to your job early next year and that is why you were getting out of the cabinet group in the first place.

I also wish you would of came up with this earlier when I was pushing for folks to sign up to give each of us proper campaigning. Did you not read the thread before, I know you were at the last meeting when we talked about it, none the less, let the best American win

Also as president are you going to run the tech meetings as well?

First, yes that was a possibility and on the table a while ago, since then and I do believe I have posted this somewhere since then, I accepted an new position within my current employer, so there is a commitment there for at least a year (most likely longer).

And yes, I was at the last meeting, you said that anyone interested in running should probably post something soon Well that meeting was less then 2 weeks ago (when this was posted). I had to decide whether I wanted to run or not, after sorting out what I was going to do about my employment stance.

In addition, it seems to me that you, even running unopposed should still have a campaign together and be letting the club members know what you believe in and where you want the club to go next year and how you are going to lead them there regardless of anything else anyone is doing. You owe that to the members of the club.

Finally, there is still 2 weeks to the meeting (vote), I am sorry, but if you can not put together what you need in that time to run for the president of this club in that time, I don't know what to tell you. This is not a highly charged political position where the states stance on the death penalty will be decided. There not need be political ploys, tricks, name calling, or any of that other stuff that goes on in political circles. Like trying to make it appear like there is the potential that I will be up and leaving in the middle of the year, or that I don't have the time due to commiting to lead other things, or any of those types of things. All you need to do is speak from your heart about the club and your goals for it and how you are going to achieve those goals.

Yes I am still willing to lead the tech meeting, however, it has been six months and per the decisions made by the cabnit when I launched the tech meeting, I was going to do them for the first 6 months to get them off the ground then start getting others in the club involved in to help lead the meetings. Though my home is always open to hosting even with a different lead. Just as this past one was actually lead by Randy (Great job by the way brother) and Lee will be leading the next on on "Electrifying Your Brewing".

Jeremy Orchuk

[Mr T]

First off, let me clarify CJ. I’m just trying to give everyone, voters and yourself the time speak to folks, questions answered etc. I’m not concerned about my time, I’m talking about issues to the group all year and feel naturally that if folks want to voice their opinion or quiz me on anything they do so all year as president. Folks can be thinking all year if they don’t like how any of the cab members are running things and they can choose to run for office, like yourself. If anything, you short changed yourself on time.

Also when I use the term campaign I say that loosely, I don’t think posters and Sunday phone calls are needed. But I’m serious about the brew club, I not only enjoy the friendships and knowledge I’ve gained from the group, but feel energetic about being a part of the growth and development so I do take this fairly serious. So my point on time was simply to help formalize this process and give those folks who wish to run a fair chance for any position, as I feel all the cabinet positions are pivotal to the group as they help guide the club in many respects.

To touch on your point about speaking to the group, you didn’t seem to think it was necessary to speak to the group last year when you became secretary. If you and the group feel its importation for the cabinet members to speak to the group regardless if they are apposed, then we should probably have Tony, Jim and Tim tell how they are gong to help the club in there respective positions. Again these are all important positions, but I thank you for putting weight in the value of my position.

Lastly, I know there was some mention of mud slingin, and I hope that this doesn’t turn out into any heated battle or harsh words. I value you as a friend and a member of the club and regardless of who is elected, I don’t want to ruin the enjoyment we have out of the club.

[BrewHound]

First off, let me clarify CJ. I’m just trying to give everyone, voters and yourself the time speak to folks, questions answered etc. I’m not concerned about my time, I’m talking about issues to the group all year and feel naturally that if folks want to voice their opinion or quiz me on anything they do so all year as president. Folks can be thinking all year if they don’t like how any of the cab members are running things and they can choose to run for office, like yourself. If anything, you short changed yourself on time.

I am glad you are trying to give everyone time to speak and listen, though I do believe that that is what occurs at the November meeting, so that is covered, those who will be voting will be at the meeting to hear both of us speak our thoughts. I thank you sir for thinking of me, however, I don't think I short changed myself, people know me, and I will have a chance to be heard at the next meeting and state my case, and let the chips fall where they may.

Also when I use the term campaign I say that loosely, I don’t think posters and Sunday phone calls are needed. But I’m serious about the brew club, I not only enjoy the friendships and knowledge I’ve gained from the group, but feel energetic about being a part of the growth and development so I do take this fairly serious. So my point on time was simply to help formalize this process and give those folks who wish to run a fair chance for any position, as I feel all the cabinet positions are pivotal to the group as they help guide the club in many respects.

I as well am serious about the brew club, that is why you see me at every club meeting, every event, and trying to facilitate activities that I believe will benefit the club. I do feel that I have a fair chance (for the position or I would not have run) as does anyone else who runs, but, again I would like to thank you for thinking of me with this statement. I too feel that the cabnit is important to the club, it in many respects guides the identity of the club itself.

To touch on your point about speaking to the group, you didn’t seem to think it was necessary to speak to the group last year when you became secretary. If you and the group feel its importation for the cabinet members to speak to the group regardless if they are apposed, then we should probably have Tony, Jim and Tim tell how they are gong to help the club in there respective positions. Again these are all important positions, but I thank you for putting weight in the value of my position.

That is a fairly low blow 'T', considering I stepped up to the plate for the club. I did not run for any position but was approached (actually, by you) to take the position when Amy could no longer fulfill the role (Well after the first of year) due to other obligations. So I was not even on the ballot last November. But, believe me when I say that I would have spoken to the group last year if I had decided to run for the position even unopposed. Why exactly are you dragging Tony, Jim, and Tim into this. My statement was that you should have already had your positions on topics formuated and thoughts on where you were going to lead this club to and how to get there long before my post. I don't see what that has to do with anything else. Lastly, yes the office of president does carry more weight, and has more responsiblity within the club, just like any other club or political office.

Lastly, I know there was some mention of mud slingin, and I hope that this doesn’t turn out into any heated battle or harsh words. I value you as a friend and a member of the club and regardless of who is elected, I don’t want to ruin the enjoyment we have out of the club.

Well, to me that kind of looks like you are speaking out of both sides of your mouth. You say you hope there is no mud slinging, yet, you did not have to post any replay to me announcing that I was running for the office, yet you did and a couple of them did seem to be pokes at me. I have said nothing bad about you, nore will I as I am your friend. Nore do I see any reason why anyone would lose enjoyment in either brewing or enjoyment in the club. I offer up myself to serve the club, if the members feels it is best served by another, then I will hang out and have a cold refreshing beer as ought to be done!

Cheers
Jeremy

[bkanderson]

I was hoping someone would have posted something by now since it is Tuesday. As we all know, elections are Thursday. If you are a paid club member and are unable to make the meeting Thursday, you can do absentee voting. Your vote has to be sent to me and Dave Coughlin by 9PM Thursday to be counted. You can PM me (bkanderson) and Dave Coughlin (DaveCo). The only position you really need to vote for is president since the other positions are unopposed.

President
Vote for either Candidate.
Travis Savchenko
Jeremy Orchuck

I will also add this under the club meeting post and news.

[Mr T]

Thanks BA and Dave, there apparently was some confusion on who was posting the details.

Again, please email both Brian and Dave so we can make sure on accuracy. Also and I know this sounds obvious, but please don't vote twice.

Voting at the meeting will take place after our regular meeting in case we have any stragglers.

We will also be voting on the By-Laws for the club. I'm going to try and add an attachment for you to review in a separate post. As many of you might recall, I've spoke about these at our last few meetings as were trying to become a little more organized and official for the club. These by-laws were taken from another club and modified slightly to adjust for our organization. Also these should help cover a few legal concerns as well.