i will be making multiple batches of this beer, or at least until i run out of my pound of citra. i will try the 320 next, i have wl 001 for todays brewing activities.
recipie, i am sure its not close but it is a starting place
Recipe: TG Clone psuedo psue TYPE: All Grain
Style: American IPA
---RECIPE SPECIFICATIONS-----------------------------------------------
SRM: 4.1 SRM SRM RANGE: 6.0-15.0 SRM
IBU: 56.2 IBUs Tinseth IBU RANGE: 40.0-70.0 IBUs
OG: 1.056 SG OG RANGE: 1.056-1.075 SG
FG: 1.012 SG FG RANGE: 1.010-1.018 SG
BU:GU: 1.001 Calories: 151.6 kcal/12oz Est ABV: 5.8 %
EE%: 75.00 % Batch: 5.50 gal Boil: 6.93 gal BT: 60 Mins
---WATER CHEMISTRY ADDITIONS----------------
Total Grain Weight: 11 lbs 4.0 oz Total Hops: 5.00 oz oz.
---MASH/STEEP PROCESS------MASH PH:5.40 ------
>>>>>>>>>>-ADD WATER CHEMICALS BEFORE GRAINS!!<<<<<<<
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
10 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 88.9 %
1 lbs White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 2 8.9 %
4.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 3 2.2 %
Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 14.46 qt of water at 164.5 F 150.0 F 75 min
---SPARGE PROCESS---
>>>>>>>>>>-RECYCLE FIRST RUNNINGS & VERIFY GRAIN/MLT TEMPS: 72.0 F/72.0 F
>>>>>>>>>>-ADD BOIL CHEMICALS BEFORE FWH
Fly sparge with 4.76 gal water at 168.0 F
---BOIL PROCESS-----------------------------
Est Pre_Boil Gravity: 1.046 SG Est OG: 1.056 SG
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
1.00 oz Citra [14.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 4 37.0 IBUs
2.00 oz Citra [14.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 5 19.2 IBUs
---FERM PROCESS-----------------------------
Primary Start: 9/24/2012 - 4.00 Days at 67.0 F
Secondary Start: 9/28/2012 - 10.00 Days at 67.0 F
there is a dry hop of 2 oz of citra for 7-10 days.
designing a psuedo sue clone - suggestions?
Not sure you'll get much out of 2% crystal. If it turns out you need a little more sweet malt bump it up to 5%. Looks like a good start. Looking forward to trying some.
Matt Franklin
Slappy Brewing North
On Tap:
American IPA
Strata Hazy IPA
Dr. Lee Orval
American Strong Ale
Friend of the Devil Belgian Golden Strong
Imperial Stout
Slappy Brewing North
On Tap:
American IPA
Strata Hazy IPA
Dr. Lee Orval
American Strong Ale
Friend of the Devil Belgian Golden Strong
Imperial Stout
i ended up going with 1/2 pound of 10l instead of .25, think i am glad i did, also wasn't paying attention and the last addition of citra went in at 10min left in the boil versus, 5 minute, according to beersmith it upped the ibu's alot
this is the final recipie i went with today, good brew day, kegged 2 beers, everything is almost cleaned and its only 4pm, a good day off
BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: TG Clone psuedo psue
Brewer:
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)
Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Boil Size: 6.93 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.93 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.060 SG
Estimated Color: 4.4 SRM
Estimated IBU: 70.1 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 78.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 80.8 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
10 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 87.0 %
1 lbs White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 2 8.7 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 3 4.3 %
1.00 oz Citra [14.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 4 36.1 IBUs
2.00 oz Citra [14.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 5 34.0 IBUs
2.00 oz Citra [14.00 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 6 0.0 IBUs
Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 11 lbs 8.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 17.65 qt of water at 159.3 F 150.0 F 60 min
this is the final recipie i went with today, good brew day, kegged 2 beers, everything is almost cleaned and its only 4pm, a good day off
BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: TG Clone psuedo psue
Brewer:
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)
Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Boil Size: 6.93 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.93 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.060 SG
Estimated Color: 4.4 SRM
Estimated IBU: 70.1 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 78.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 80.8 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
------------
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
10 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 87.0 %
1 lbs White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 2 8.7 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 3 4.3 %
1.00 oz Citra [14.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 4 36.1 IBUs
2.00 oz Citra [14.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 5 34.0 IBUs
2.00 oz Citra [14.00 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 6 0.0 IBUs
Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 11 lbs 8.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 17.65 qt of water at 159.3 F 150.0 F 60 min
Brandon Franklin - The other Franklin
Well i took the que from dave r and tony b, emailed tg, and got some responses.
asked about the haze, recommended yeast, some of the grain bill and when they would start bottling.
some of the responses below.
"That said, go with an American Ale yeast from White Labs or Wyeast and
>> use
>> your instincts for the rest. You're further along than you may think!"
and for the grain bill dry hop
"Hi Brandon,
You're grain bill looks very good. I wouldn't change it. Focus on the
dry hop, and a lot of it. "
I think i may bump up my dry hop to 3oz for maybe 10 days? I just did a beer that had 2oz citra and 2 oz simcoe the smell is amazing, left it on the dry hop for 7 days, but the rest of the hop floor fell out, so hopefully with this psuedo sue clone i can get it right.
asked about the haze, recommended yeast, some of the grain bill and when they would start bottling.
some of the responses below.
"That said, go with an American Ale yeast from White Labs or Wyeast and
>> use
>> your instincts for the rest. You're further along than you may think!"
and for the grain bill dry hop
"Hi Brandon,
You're grain bill looks very good. I wouldn't change it. Focus on the
dry hop, and a lot of it. "
I think i may bump up my dry hop to 3oz for maybe 10 days? I just did a beer that had 2oz citra and 2 oz simcoe the smell is amazing, left it on the dry hop for 7 days, but the rest of the hop floor fell out, so hopefully with this psuedo sue clone i can get it right.
Brandon Franklin - The other Franklin
just tapped the psuedo sue clone, like 12 times, i got some dry hop in my keg and it kept plugging.
The flavor is ok, i dont think it is as intnse as psuedo psue, color is close, i might actually add just a little more wheat. I ended up dry hopping with 4 ouces of citra versus - 2 or 3, so that is 7 oz of citra in the batch, i am thinking the 10 vs 5 minute edition was a mistake. I think i will move that to 2 min left in boil or flame out (my case electricity off). anyone have any other thoughts to get the most out of the citra?
if i move up the 30 minute edition to like 20, or 15, maybe retain more citra flavor?
abv is 6.1 - 6.2 so that was close on my system at least, minor recipie adjustment there.
The flavor is ok, i dont think it is as intnse as psuedo psue, color is close, i might actually add just a little more wheat. I ended up dry hopping with 4 ouces of citra versus - 2 or 3, so that is 7 oz of citra in the batch, i am thinking the 10 vs 5 minute edition was a mistake. I think i will move that to 2 min left in boil or flame out (my case electricity off). anyone have any other thoughts to get the most out of the citra?
if i move up the 30 minute edition to like 20, or 15, maybe retain more citra flavor?
abv is 6.1 - 6.2 so that was close on my system at least, minor recipie adjustment there.
Brandon Franklin - The other Franklin