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Re: American Stout Judging

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:03 am
by mjensen52402
More importantly, why is food grade drain cleaner a thing? I've never eaten drain food.

Re: American Stout Judging

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:22 am
by whitedj
DrPaulsen wrote:Where can we buy those line cleaners?
Group buy? Maybe split a gallon between interested parties?

Re: American Stout Judging

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:40 am
by andrewmaixner
mjensen52402 wrote:More importantly, why is food grade drain cleaner a thing? I've never eaten drain food.
I was being somewhat facetious -- drain cleaner is sodium hydroxide, Lye. For food-related applications, there would be a quality requirement per FDA regs.

Re: American Stout Judging

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:03 pm
by kjball
Lutefisk anyone?

Re: American Stout Judging

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:08 pm
by TappedOut
I'm pretty sure cleaning tap lines w/ lutefisk would be counterproductive.

Re: American Stout Judging

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:11 pm
by daryl
I've not heard about food-grade lutefisk.

Re: American Stout Judging

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:13 pm
by tony b
TappedOut wrote:I'm pretty sure cleaning tap lines w/ lutefisk would be counterproductive.
Best thing you could do with it! :lol:

Re: American Stout Judging

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:19 pm
by Matt F
Are any of these what you recommend Eric?
http://rapidswholesale.com/beer-supplie ... icals.html

Re: American Stout Judging

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:12 pm
by Eric B
Matt F wrote:Are any of these what you recommend Eric?
http://rapidswholesale.com/beer-supplie ... icals.html

The very first one, Draftec. We used to use that but switched to Micro-Matic's cleaner. The base chemical is Sodium Hydroxide with some added surfactants. Every brand has a different "recipe" so to speak. I have found Micro-Matic's cleaner to be my favorite so far, I've gotten stuff out of lines you wouldn't imagine... But it also comes down to concentration. Brewer's Associate recommends a 2% Caustic Solution for line cleaning, which works well in well maintained draft systems. I do 3% which really douches stuff out and help me clean up competitor lines that I have taken that are severely neglected most of time, or just not cleaned well. That Draftec from Rapids will work well in all of your applications at home and the price they have it at, is pretty nice. Something to keep in mind with it, though. You must use 7oz Caustic per gallon of water to achieve a 2% Caustic solution and 11oz of Caustic solution per gallon of water to achieve 3%. So those bottles can go pretty quickly if you clean your lines regularly like your supposed to..

I also use it to clean my brewery with. All my hoses, fittings, kettle's, etc. Works extremely well.

Re: American Stout Judging

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:24 pm
by andrewmaixner
Just for those who may not be aware, NaOH is dangerous. You need protective gear to use it: long sleeves/pants, enclosed shoes, aprons, gloves, eyewear or face shields, and mix it under ventilation, do not breath concentrated fumes.

Re: American Stout Judging

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:33 pm
by Matt F
I have been using that new silver barrier tubing stuff for about a year or so. I don't clean as frequent as I should. When I do clean they don't have any visible build up and cleaning solution still looks clean. My old regular line was gross in no time. I think the fancy beer line I got may actually be effective.

Re: American Stout Judging

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:39 am
by czubak
Matt F wrote:I have been using that new silver barrier tubing stuff for about a year or so. I don't clean as frequent as I should. When I do clean they don't have any visible build up and cleaning solution still looks clean. My old regular line was gross in no time. I think the fancy beer line I got may actually be effective.
I tend to see the same thing Matt, I got that line in the group buy as well and really like it

Re: American Stout Judging

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:41 am
by brianhall1024
Is there any interest in possibly doing another group buy for those of us that didn't get in on it the 1st time?

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Re: American Stout Judging

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:30 am
by czubak
brianhall1024 wrote:Is there any interest in possibly doing another group buy for those of us that didn't get in on it the 1st time?

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I want to say we got it through Joe. If we ever did, I would like to get another 6' piece if I ever add another tap.

Re: American Stout Judging

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 4:11 pm
by tony b
Yes, we ordered it through Joe, but we had to buy the whole roll, since it was something he didn't normally stock; so, that's why it was a group buy.

I could use another 6 foot piece myself.