Brad Smith is at it again

kjball · Post by **kjball** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:51 am

This has some huge potential, I really hope it pans out.

http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2012/04/2 ... a-preview/

brownbeard · Post by **brownbeard** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:25 am

That looks great. If there was enough interest, I would go in on a group cloud account.

kjball · Post by **kjball** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:28 am

I totally agree, and we should discuss it.

hoboscratch · Post by **hoboscratch** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:10 pm

10 recipes in your cloud folder? wtf, that's like 50KB of space, then he's going to charge $1/month for more recipe storage? That better be unlimited or its going to be the most expensive cloud service available, relatively speaking. Examine if you will:

dropbox - 2gb free
skydrive - 25gb free, 20gb more for $10/yr (cheapest upgrade)
box.net - 5gb free
amazon cloud drive - 5gb free

Matt F · Post by **Matt F** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:40 pm

Sounds cool, but I am low tech with my recipes. I use old Promash to create the recipe and then print it. I write down notes on the paper and throw it in the file.

I guess you could say, I still jerk off manually.

Mr T · Post by **Mr T** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:12 pm

100 percent digital dude...wave of the future

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Sounds cool, but I am low tech with my recipes. I use old Promash to create the recipe and then print it. I write down notes on the paper and throw it in the file. I guess you could say, I still jerk off manually.
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kjball · Post by **kjball** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:33 pm

Free is free. I'm going to see what else is offered as a part of this. You do bring up a good point, though. When we get the new website, we could look into having a "cloud drive" of some sort that could be used for sharing recipes, etc. It'll be like napster for beer. That is, until some drummer comes along and sues us.

hoboscratch wrote:10 recipes in your cloud folder? wtf, that's like 50KB of space, then he's going to charge $1/month for more recipe storage? That better be unlimited or its going to be the most expensive cloud service available, relatively speaking. Examine if you will:

dropbox - 2gb free
skydrive - 25gb free, 20gb more for $10/yr (cheapest upgrade)
box.net - 5gb free
amazon cloud drive - 5gb free

brownbeard · Post by **brownbeard** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:40 pm

kjball wrote:Free is free. I'm going to see what else is offered as a part of this. You do bring up a good point, though. When we get the new website, we could look into having a "cloud drive" of some sort that could be used for sharing recipes, etc. It'll be like napster for beer. That is, until some drummer comes along and sues us.

Lars

hoboscratch · Post by **hoboscratch** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:12 pm

I wrote him an email that his charge of $1/mo even for 10MB of storage (a number I pulled out of the air) is ridiculously expensive. I'll let you guys know if he responds, just for S&G.

So, even if he gives 10MB for $1/mo (~640 recipes at 16kb per .bsm file, so more or less infinite), that comes to $.10/mb/mo. not taking into account the free 25gb given by skydrive, if you were to purchase the 20gb for $10/yr, it would come to approximately $.0004/mb/mo. So if he would give out this hypothetical 10MB/mo for the dollar a month, he'd still be charging 250x more than the cheapest commercial cloud offering out there. So in reverse, it would be the same as him charging $2048/mo for 20gb of storage...

But yeah, free is free. I'll use those 10 recipes on his server as my "build a recipe at work" staging grounds or something.

Steven P · Post by **Steven P** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:34 pm

It's a one man shop. He's not doing this all for free so cut him some slack.

Also, If I can eventually cloud share via the Android app it would be great. I lug my laptop out for brew day and wonder when the day will come when I finally spill sticky sweet wort all over it.

hoboscratch · Post by **hoboscratch** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:30 am

Steven P wrote:It's a one man shop. He's not doing this all for free so cut him some slack.

Never! Software devs are the devil!

BrewHound · Post by **BrewHound** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:32 am

I think the problem here is scale, if you are big company where provide online storage to several hundred thousand clients is part of you business you can provide it much cheaper then try to provide that to say a couple of thousand brewers for recipe storage.

hoboscratch · Post by **hoboscratch** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:55 pm

Yep, so why not make the app so it can tie into this already readily abundant cheap storage that's available out there?

JimF · Post by **JimF** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:59 pm

hoboscratch wrote:Yep, so why not make the app so it can tie into this already readily abundant cheap storage that's available out there?

Brad has to make a living too! He has added new features but isn't charging for the upgrade. If you don't want to pay his price, don't use it. I can live with only 10 recipes on his cloud at any one time.

hoboscratch · Post by **hoboscratch** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:17 pm

My expertise is data storage, that's what I do for a living. Part of my job is to scrutinize storage costs for my company and work vendors for the lowest possible prices. So naturally I'll look at this and call bs on how relatively overpriced it is. Its another company trying to cash in on the cloud cow and charging inflated costs for it. I know its only a "proposed" buck a month for the expanded storage. I'm just pointing out that even if the buck was for unlimited storage, he's laughing all the way to the bank on this one. Something to be mindful of as "cloud" storage becomes more and more prevalent in our world.