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Better Bottle Sale @ Northern Brewer

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:20 pm
by tony b
Got an email from NB with a buy one/get one free sale on better bottles:

BUY A BETTER BOTTLE GET A BETTER BOTTLE ABSOLUTELY FREE!

Your choice of either 5 or 6 gallon better bottles 48 HOURS ONLY!
Enter code: BETTER5 (for 5 gallon) or BETTER6 (for 6 gallon) at cart checkout.

The 5 and 6 gallon plastic carboy made from a clear, stain-resistant, non-porous PET plastic that is impermeable to oxygen. Light and virtually unbreakable.

Order today and get brewing!

Due to incredible demand, we’ve run out of inventory of 6 gallon Better Bottles. Place your order today, and we’ll ship next week. Thanks for your patience!

Offer ends at 11:59pm 10/24/12. Offer valid on plain, non-ported 5 and 6 gallon Better Bottles.

Offer cannot be combined with other offers. Shipping and handling not included.


If you want to mix and match, you have to call in the order, as the website can only handle one coupon at a time.

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:52 pm
by Matt F
I ordered two 6 gallon Better Bottles on the 23rd. They packed them tonight and ship tomorrow. I ordered after the notice that they were out. Looks like they got some more in a hurry.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:40 pm
by Matt F
Brewed 10 gallons of Hefe last night and used my new Better Bottles for the first time. After only using glass for over 10 years, I must say I already like how much less careful I can be. I usually finish brewing during the week after midnight so it is nice to have some added safety. I knew they flex alot but was still a little surprised the first time I put one full of oxiclean on the ground and it shot me in the face. I can see why people say not to move them with the air locks on. Looking forward to many brews with these things.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:09 pm
by Derek
One thing to be aware of in cleaning better bottles, if you use PBW (or other caustic cleanser), make sure to add your PBW after you fill the better bottle with water. Otherwise, the better bottle may crack. Better Bottle recommends using enzyme-enhanced laundry detergent (such as Free & Clear Natural 2X Seventh Generation laundry detergent) as a safe washing agent.

Randy posted this link in July.
http://www.better-bottle.com/pdf/Washin ... gStudy.pdf

From this study:
Preparing Washing/Sanitizing Agents For Use
Select washing/sanitizing agents that are compatible with your equipment and follow these general rules:
1. Use hot water that is not more than 52°C (125°F).
2. Do not use higher concentrations than recommended by the manufacturers of the agents or your equipment.
3. In the case of aggressive agents that can cause damage to your equipment, make up working solutions in a container that is made of a material known to be especially resistant to attack by the agents. Always fill the container with water before adding the agent and when adding
the concentrated agent, stir the water vigorously to insure that the agent is quickly diluted and uniformly mixed. Adding a concentrated liquid or powdered agent to a container before adding water is a worst case situation in terms of damaging the container. The concentration of a
powdered agent will be extraordinarily high adjacent to a mound of dissolving powder and considerable heat is likely to be released as the powder dissolves.

Washing Basics
How you wash will depend very much on what you are washing; however, certain generalizations can be made:


1. Do not soak your equipment for long periods in solutions of chemicals that are known to attack the materials from which the equipment is made. Short exposure may be acceptable, even recommended, but prolonged soaking is just asking for trouble. BetterBottle has tested Free & Clear Natural 2X Seventh Generation enzyme-enhanced, environmentally friendly laundry detergent as a safe washing agent for home winemaking and brewing equipment. This detergent does not appear to damage any of the materials listed in Table 1, excluding glass, even after weeks of exposure. And the enzymes are effective at breaking down and solubilizing the organic deposits produced by fermentation.
2. Agitation and cautious rubbing will greatly facilitate the washing process. However, whatever you use for rubbing should be sufficiently non-abrasive so that it will not scratch the surface of your equipment. Scratches will just make the equipment more difficult to wash the next time and can harbor contamination, including microorganisms.
3. It is better to use your working solution of washing agent in modest, repeated doses, rather than all in one time. The washing power of fresh working solution will be stronger and more effective than it will be for a solution that is significantly contaminated with the dissolved and
suspended materials you want to wash away.

Washing BetterBottle Carboys
The nature of BetterBottle carboys makes them much easier to wash than other types of fermentation carboys. And the BetterBottle technical team has developed an approach that uses the safe and environmentally friendly Free & Clear Natural 2X Seventh Generation enzyme-enhanced detergent; however, the general approach can also be used with other washing agents. The following instructions apply to 6 gallon (22.7L) carboys, but can be scaled down for smaller sizes.

1. Pour about 6 liters (1.6 gallons) of hot water (50°C/122°F) and 25 ml (2+ tablespoons) of the detergent into a six gallon (22.7 L) carboy

2. Inserting a 12” (30 cm) square piece of old bath towel, or similar rag, into the carboy will speed washing.

3. Close the carboy with a stopper that has an easily removable vent plug and roll/slosh vigorously on a soft surface, such as a piece of rug, for a few minutes. Remove the closure plug frequently to release the
suction that develops as the result of the cooling water vapor.

4. Let the carboy sit for 10-15 minutes and roll/slosh again for a few more minutes.

5. After a few such cycles, this approach will usually remove all the organic deposits, with the possible exception of the ring of deposit that forms at the top of the fermenting wine or beer.

6. If a ring of deposit persists, dump out the dirty detergent water, leaving the piece of towel in the carboy, and add another 16
liters (1.6 gallons) of hot tap water (50°C/122°F) and 25 ml (2+ tablespoons) the detergent. Then, close the carboy and invert it on a small plastic bucket to soak the ring of deposit. If the ring of deposit is
not submerged, add a little more hot water. Again, remove the closure plug frequently to release the suction that develops as the
result of the cooling water vapor.

7. Swirl the carboy, neck down, so the piece of towel rubs away the ring of deposit. If parts of the deposit do not wash loose, it is safe to leave the carboy to soak overnight, once the water has cooled enough so as not to cause a vacuum within the carboy.

8. If parts of a ring deposit are really stubborn, dump out almost all of the water, add another 25 ml (2+ tablespoons) of the detergent to the wet piece of towel and swirl the rag vigorously around on the
deposits.

9. Let the carboy sit for a while and repeat the swirling as needed. It should not take long to remove all of the deposits.

10. Finally, rinse the carboy, neck down, with a jet of warm water.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:38 pm
by Matt F
Going to have to give this a shot. Can't get the ring near the top to come off. I have been using oxy clean with a wash cloth. May need to try a larger rag and invert it with a stopper. I originally filled the whole thing with warm oxy clean and let it soak. I am starting to miss sticking my brush in my glass carboy.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:11 pm
by whitedj
right, wrong or indifferent.... I typically put ~2 gal of oxyclean solution into the better bottle, invert and soak over night, and then put a flower sack in the bottle and dump nearly all the solution (leaving just enough to moisten the rag) and then roll/shake the towel around the ring.

These are a pain in the @$$ to clean and typically use plastic pails for primary when possible. I use BB's for lagering and dry hopping

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:45 am
by Steven P
I primary in plastic BB for the most part. Using Oxyclean Free for the tough stuff and then a natural enzyme detergent soak with a bit of rag gets my carboys sparking clean. It's quite amazing how well this works. No need for a carboy brush anymore.

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:13 pm
by tony b
So where do you score this magic cleaner locally -"Free & Clear Natural 2X Seventh Generation enzyme-enhanced detergent?"

I haven't used my new BBs yet, but need to be ready once I do.

I already knew not to soak them with PBW overnight. Got that straight from the Five Star folks at NHC.

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:28 pm
by Derek
It's available at Target.