Sparging
Sparging
When you sparge, how do you do it?
Continuous - where a constant flow of sparge water is added to the top of the mash tun; and the outflow from the mash tun is sent to the brew kettle. Inflow and outflows are set such that the level of water above the grain bed is about 1 to 1.5 inches.
Batch - where the mash tun is drained (after mashout) and then all of the sparge water is added to the mash tun and allowed to steep, or is gently recirculated with a pump. After 10 mins or so, the kettle is then filled to the boil volume.
During either of these approaches, do you have other steps...such as monitoring pH or gravity?
Continuous - where a constant flow of sparge water is added to the top of the mash tun; and the outflow from the mash tun is sent to the brew kettle. Inflow and outflows are set such that the level of water above the grain bed is about 1 to 1.5 inches.
Batch - where the mash tun is drained (after mashout) and then all of the sparge water is added to the mash tun and allowed to steep, or is gently recirculated with a pump. After 10 mins or so, the kettle is then filled to the boil volume.
During either of these approaches, do you have other steps...such as monitoring pH or gravity?
In the Fridge/On Tap: English Bitter, Schwarzbier, Cream Ale
In the keg: Wheat Beer, Russian Imperial Stout
In the bucket:
In the queue: Irish Red, American IPA
In the keg: Wheat Beer, Russian Imperial Stout
In the bucket:
In the queue: Irish Red, American IPA
Re: Sparging
I do a continuous fly sparge. The water temperature is maintained by an electric element and PID. I use a Blichmann Autosparge so I only have to adjust the flow from my mashtun and the hot liquor tank flow matches automatically. I get at least 1 inch of water above the grain bed but usually much more. I don't worry about having too much sparge water on top. My concern is not enough which can cause the grain bed to compress. I rarely measure the PH during sparge but do about 15 minutes after mash-in. Only gravity reading I take is a pre-boil once the sparge is done. I may take a gravity reading of the runoff during sparge if doing a really low gravity beer. I stopped measuring this years ago because I wasn't getting to a low enough gravity of runoff to worry about tannin extraction or other issues.
Matt Franklin
Slappy Brewing North
On Tap:
American IPA
Strata Hazy IPA
Dr. Lee Orval
American Strong Ale
Friend of the Devil Belgian Golden Strong
Imperial Stout
Slappy Brewing North
On Tap:
American IPA
Strata Hazy IPA
Dr. Lee Orval
American Strong Ale
Friend of the Devil Belgian Golden Strong
Imperial Stout
Re: Sparging
I do something in between these. I drain the mash/lauter tun into the brew kettle until no more wort comes out. Then I gradually add sparge water to the grain bed until I maintain half and inch to an inch of water on top of the grain. This is drained into a second pail. Then I lift the kettle onto the burner and pour the pail into the kettle. {I am pretty low-tech} This is because I found that lifting a single stainless steel kettle with 7 to 8 gallons of 150+ degree wort was more than I could do by myself.daryl wrote:When you sparge, how do you do it?
Continuous - where a constant flow of sparge water is added to the top of the mash tun; and the outflow from the mash tun is sent to the brew kettle. Inflow and outflows are set such that the level of water above the grain bed is about 1 to 1.5 inches.
Batch - where the mash tun is drained (after mashout) and then all of the sparge water is added to the mash tun and allowed to steep, or is gently recirculated with a pump. After 10 mins or so, the kettle is then filled to the boil volume.
During either of these approaches, do you have other steps...such as monitoring pH or gravity?
Pat McCusker
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Re: Sparging
I used to do batch sparge in a cooler and measure gravity at each step.
Now i do BIAB, hoist the bag out, squeeze, and if it is a high gravity batch I will reserve two gallons and pour it over then squeeze again.
I estimate pH and do minerals with the ezwater spreadsheet, and record gravity / volumes before boil and into fermenter.
I have a crappy ph meter i only use for monitoring sours currently.
Now i do BIAB, hoist the bag out, squeeze, and if it is a high gravity batch I will reserve two gallons and pour it over then squeeze again.
I estimate pH and do minerals with the ezwater spreadsheet, and record gravity / volumes before boil and into fermenter.
I have a crappy ph meter i only use for monitoring sours currently.
Re: Sparging
My process is pretty much the same as Matt's except that I don't have an autosparge. Monitoring the level above the grain isn't too difficult since my runoff rate is only 0.5 gallons per minute.
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On Tap at the Laughing-Kitten Pub:
* Foggy Bottom NEIPA
* Gluten Free Stoutish Ale
* Botched Bitter
* Club Barrel Robust Porter (cellar)
On deck/fermenting:
* Belle's Helles (cue AC/DC)
* Foggy Bottom NEIPA
* Gluten Free Stoutish Ale
* Botched Bitter
* Club Barrel Robust Porter (cellar)
On deck/fermenting:
* Belle's Helles (cue AC/DC)
Re: Sparging
At the end of your sparge, when you have enough wort in your kettle, you just shut off the flow to the kettle? At that time, do you still have 1-2 inches of sparge water on top of the grain bed, or do you anticipate that you are getting close to the end and stop adding sparge water?
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Matt F wrote:I do a continuous fly sparge. The water temperature is maintained by an electric element and PID. I use a Blichmann Autosparge so I only have to adjust the flow from my mashtun and the hot liquor tank flow matches automatically. I get at least 1 inch of water above the grain bed but usually much more. I don't worry about having too much sparge water on top. My concern is not enough which can cause the grain bed to compress. I rarely measure the PH during sparge but do about 15 minutes after mash-in. Only gravity reading I take is a pre-boil once the sparge is done. I may take a gravity reading of the runoff during sparge if doing a really low gravity beer. I stopped measuring this years ago because I wasn't getting to a low enough gravity of runoff to worry about tannin extraction or other issues.
In the Fridge/On Tap: English Bitter, Schwarzbier, Cream Ale
In the keg: Wheat Beer, Russian Imperial Stout
In the bucket:
In the queue: Irish Red, American IPA
In the keg: Wheat Beer, Russian Imperial Stout
In the bucket:
In the queue: Irish Red, American IPA
Re: Sparging
Yes shut off the flow. As long as your volume calculations are correct you should not have any sparge water on top of the bed when sparging is completed. I usually have a couple of quarts left in the mash tun that I just drain off into the sink.daryl wrote:At the end of your sparge, when you have enough wort in your kettle, you just shut off the flow to the kettle? At that time, do you still have 1-2 inches of sparge water on top of the grain bed, or do you anticipate that you are getting close to the end and stop adding sparge water?
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Matt F wrote:I do a continuous fly sparge. The water temperature is maintained by an electric element and PID. I use a Blichmann Autosparge so I only have to adjust the flow from my mashtun and the hot liquor tank flow matches automatically. I get at least 1 inch of water above the grain bed but usually much more. I don't worry about having too much sparge water on top. My concern is not enough which can cause the grain bed to compress. I rarely measure the PH during sparge but do about 15 minutes after mash-in. Only gravity reading I take is a pre-boil once the sparge is done. I may take a gravity reading of the runoff during sparge if doing a really low gravity beer. I stopped measuring this years ago because I wasn't getting to a low enough gravity of runoff to worry about tannin extraction or other issues.
Eric Benda
Re: Sparging
Yep. Just shut off the valve.
I usually deliberately have extra sparge water. So, there's usually about two gallons left in the grain.
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I usually deliberately have extra sparge water. So, there's usually about two gallons left in the grain.
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On Tap at the Laughing-Kitten Pub:
* Foggy Bottom NEIPA
* Gluten Free Stoutish Ale
* Botched Bitter
* Club Barrel Robust Porter (cellar)
On deck/fermenting:
* Belle's Helles (cue AC/DC)
* Foggy Bottom NEIPA
* Gluten Free Stoutish Ale
* Botched Bitter
* Club Barrel Robust Porter (cellar)
On deck/fermenting:
* Belle's Helles (cue AC/DC)
Re: Sparging
I usually have a bunch of sparge water. I usually don't calculate how much sparge water I need. If I am brewing 10 gallons, I get 20 gallons of water ready and use what I need for the mash, rest goes in the HLT. Unless doing a low gravity beer, the final runnings can be canned and used for starters. Boil to increase gravity if necessary.
Matt Franklin
Slappy Brewing North
On Tap:
American IPA
Strata Hazy IPA
Dr. Lee Orval
American Strong Ale
Friend of the Devil Belgian Golden Strong
Imperial Stout
Slappy Brewing North
On Tap:
American IPA
Strata Hazy IPA
Dr. Lee Orval
American Strong Ale
Friend of the Devil Belgian Golden Strong
Imperial Stout
Re: Sparging
Canning for yeast starters....I really like that idea. Thanks Matt.
In the Fridge/On Tap: English Bitter, Schwarzbier, Cream Ale
In the keg: Wheat Beer, Russian Imperial Stout
In the bucket:
In the queue: Irish Red, American IPA
In the keg: Wheat Beer, Russian Imperial Stout
In the bucket:
In the queue: Irish Red, American IPA
Re: Sparging
I wouldn't use anything once your gravity drops below 1.008. That is the cutoff I use.
Matt Franklin
Slappy Brewing North
On Tap:
American IPA
Strata Hazy IPA
Dr. Lee Orval
American Strong Ale
Friend of the Devil Belgian Golden Strong
Imperial Stout
Slappy Brewing North
On Tap:
American IPA
Strata Hazy IPA
Dr. Lee Orval
American Strong Ale
Friend of the Devil Belgian Golden Strong
Imperial Stout
Re: Sparging
And I'm really liking the idea of the Blichmann Sparge Arm. I bet one would fit perfectly in my newly acquired, gently used mash tun.
I'm sure it's very similar to what's in Dan's porcelain mash tun, the one he uses for Uncle Dan's Prison Wine.
Not sure how he gets it out of the bowl though, and I'm really sure I don't wanna know!
I'm sure it's very similar to what's in Dan's porcelain mash tun, the one he uses for Uncle Dan's Prison Wine.
Not sure how he gets it out of the bowl though, and I'm really sure I don't wanna know!
In the Fridge/On Tap: English Bitter, Schwarzbier, Cream Ale
In the keg: Wheat Beer, Russian Imperial Stout
In the bucket:
In the queue: Irish Red, American IPA
In the keg: Wheat Beer, Russian Imperial Stout
In the bucket:
In the queue: Irish Red, American IPA
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Re: Sparging
I am like Andrew in that I used to batch sparge in a cooler. I used a voile lined cooler so it probably was still technically hybrid BIAB. I now use a bag and squeeze the crap out of it. I went from mid 80's In brewhouse efficiency, to the high 70's but that translates into about 75 cents more base grain per batch for a bit less cleaning and a little bit less work... time wise, no major savings though, really...
I'm thinking of rigging up a second electric pot to try a sparge over the bag, but I've not put that together. The recirculating eBIAB system so far has been good enough for me as I'll never (or at least until retirement) have adequate time to be an award winner.
I guess I should measure pH more than I do, but as long as I add the right amounts of the water chemicals/acid I'm always in range anyway when I do spot check. I mostly build up from RO because I have really tasty but moderately hard well water with a lot of temporary hardness. I'll cheat on darker beers and maybe go 25%-30% well water (kind on an unknown) but that's not been a problem when I've done it either...
Fred
I'm thinking of rigging up a second electric pot to try a sparge over the bag, but I've not put that together. The recirculating eBIAB system so far has been good enough for me as I'll never (or at least until retirement) have adequate time to be an award winner.
I guess I should measure pH more than I do, but as long as I add the right amounts of the water chemicals/acid I'm always in range anyway when I do spot check. I mostly build up from RO because I have really tasty but moderately hard well water with a lot of temporary hardness. I'll cheat on darker beers and maybe go 25%-30% well water (kind on an unknown) but that's not been a problem when I've done it either...
Fred
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Re: Sparging
Fred, you can "sparge" the bag with cold water. The difference between hot/cold at that point is diminishing an order of magnitude -- like "10% of 10%" increase
Re: Sparging
The Blichmann Autosparge works great if using gravity to move water from the HLT to the top of the mashtun. My cousin Brandon said it did not work very well when pushed with a pump. I can verify, it does in fact fit very well in your mashtun.daryl wrote:And I'm really liking the idea of the Blichmann Sparge Arm. I bet one would fit perfectly in my newly acquired, gently used mash tun.
You can also use a barb with a silicone hose like I did before the Blichmann. I had a ball valve on the out side and screwed a 1/2" barbed nipple through from the inside. If you can't get tight enough add a nut on the outside and then the valve. If doing gravity, the Autosparge is really nice, and actually very low tech.
Matt Franklin
Slappy Brewing North
On Tap:
American IPA
Strata Hazy IPA
Dr. Lee Orval
American Strong Ale
Friend of the Devil Belgian Golden Strong
Imperial Stout
Slappy Brewing North
On Tap:
American IPA
Strata Hazy IPA
Dr. Lee Orval
American Strong Ale
Friend of the Devil Belgian Golden Strong
Imperial Stout